ME: When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33)
Ten strangers want to come live in your house..1 of them wants to kill your family…now do the “Christian” thing and let them in.#refugees
ME: “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me… as you did it to one of the least of these, my brothers, you did it to me.’ Matthew 25:35
(ME: Upon further study, I have come to believe that Mat 25, Jesus is speaking specifically about how He expects his disciples to be treated when He isn’t present and He is not referring to any stranger. It is possible Jesus is referring to the entirety of the Body of Christ, but I don’t think so. It is difficult to read as though it is about everyone.) – not in the original conversation.
I’m not saying it sounds appealing, logical or even safe and it sure doesn’t sound Republican, but Jesus did, in fact, say it. So the question remains, does your Patriotic Nationalism trump Jesus, or does it not?
Rightly divide the word of truth… God is not a schizophrenic God who behaved one way on the Old testament and another in the new…God gave David a man after his OWN heart, victory against his enemies…
Let me ask you a question…
“If a Christian American soldier stumbles upon an ISIS camp, do you expect him to put down his weapon and go “Love his enemies” maybe even “feed them.” Or do we bomb the hell out of them because we are at war and our job is to protect America and the world from these animals?”
Go ahead, apply your scripture without a spin or distraction to another situation.
ME: I’ve only posted a couple of verses. No spin accept whats in your head.
So the question remains, does your Patriotic Nationalism trump Jesus, or does it not?
I’ll go first and answer your question this way. If by Christian soldier you are presuming the soldier is by default American and the enemy is by default not American then I can not accept your statement as a Truth.
However, if “Christian soldier” applies to any Christian soldier from any (era) and any country killing any enemy soldier (possibly an American) then we can be in agreement.
What are we to do with two American Christian soldier’s during the Civil War each a Christian, each the other’s enemy, each shooting the other dead. Are they both justified?
A Christian Syrian fighter beheaded an Islamic State (IS) group militant in Al-Hasakah province on Thursday. Are you okay with this?
I knew you couldt just answer the simple question,liberals never do. They spin and distract and reword.
God doesnt contradict himself. The same spirit who gave David victory bu killing the enemy when at war, and by parting the Red Sea and drowning the Egyptians is the same God who says to love your enemy. He goes on to say who your enemy is; People who hurt you and use you and say all manner of evil against you, (NOT someone we are fighting in a war.) God expects us to use common sense as well as scripture, there are scriptures that mean exactly what they say. ”Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.” But others must be looked at within the context, as every one of the ones you posted…but again…I think you knew exactly what I meant, but you chose to doge the question.
Lets make it more personal, if my son, a Christian, goes to war and he comes upon the enemy, ISIS do you think scripture teaches that he should lay down his weapon and pray for them or kill them? Simple question.
Go ahead, take a couple of hours to think about how to spin it.
ME: Kill them!
(of course, the real question is whether his Christian son should have agreed to war in the first place.) – not in the original conversation.
Wow, I just fainted
Now I’ll answer your question on patriotism
ANSWER: I am a patriot, AND a Christian. Not only is it possible to be both, but I think its IMPOSSIBLE to be a Christian and not a patriot.
(ME: I don’t know how a Christian can mix, so thoroughly, civil patriotism with Salvation and God’s Kingdom. All of History shows us that powerful organizations never work out well for the true Believers. You add to that any belief in John’s end-time Revelation. When one believes the world will end under the boot of a giant government, a “patriotic” MARK will be required to participate in that economy and any Believer who rejects the leadership finds themselves in-prisoned of terminated. Any kind of current blind societal loyalty is truly beyond my comprehension.) – not in the original conversation.
Consider Pauls words;
“For I could wish that I myself were anathema from Christ for my brethren s sake, my kinsmen according to the flesh; who are Israelites; whose is the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever”
Patriotism it is more than mere love of the land of one s birth or of his citizenship. It is that, but it broadens out into the love of one’s people wherever found, as Japanese love Japanese; Chinese, Chinese; Germans, Germans; Jews, Jews. I love God and its why I love America…you wouldn’t understand, it’s a conservative, God loving, bible believing, American thing…
ME: How would a 100 AD Christian living in Ephesus under Roman rule be both a Christian and a Patriot? …or perhaps a Christian currently living in Syria?
I’m out of breath. You’re not wrong, I’m just looking for balance. If your calling and strength is mercy and compassion that’s a much needed. But so is Justice and boldness. God is a God of all of it.
(ME: Balance my ass. Justice without Mercy, Boldness without Compassion will never be more than a soft tyranny. Law is a tool. It is meant to protect us, create order, and help to manage our propensity to self-centered perception, desire and, decisions. The warring out of the law “Justice” should never be our Ruler.) – not in the original conversation.0
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